How are we any better than saddam? Saddam did whatever he wanted - we do whatever we want, to an even higher degree (because we can to a higher degree than he could) .
Finally, I gather your key point in the post is that you don't think the U.S. and the UK should have engaged the government of Iraq on the field of battle, yes?
May I ask what you think the best alternative was?
September 26, 2006)—President Bush said Tuesday he will declassify a National Intelligence Estimate that concludes the war with Iraq has worsened terrorism.
The report, details of which were revealed in a New York Times article on Sunday, says the nation's spy agencies don't think the Iraq war has reduced the threat of terrorism.
In fact, they concluded that the war has contributed to an increased threat.
"Saddam Hussein was distrustful of al-Qaeda and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al-Qaeda to provide material or operational support," it said.
"The view is it clearly was an organized group before 9/11, but the campaign in Afghanistan disrupted [al-Qaeda] leadership very heavily."
"The view is it clearly was an organized group before 9/11, but the campaign in Afghanistan disrupted that leadership very heavily.
"But in recent years, particularly in the tribal areas between Pakistan and Afghanistan, the al-Qaeda leadership has been able to re-group and re-organize itself.
Kilroy wrote:gmg is taking too long. A question to b-b4--9. What is your definition of imperialism
* (n) imperialism (a policy of extending your rule over foreign countries)
* (n) imperialism (a political orientation that advocates imperial interests)
* (n) imperialism (any instance of aggressive extension of authority)
Imperialism is a policy of extending control or authority over foreign entities as a means of acquisition and/or maintenance of empires. This is either through direct territorial conquest or settlement, or through indirect methods of exerting control on the politics and/or economy of these other entities. The term is often used to describe the policy of a nation's dominance over distant lands, regardless of whether the nation considers itself part of the empire.
The practice of one country extending its control over the territory, political system, or economic life of another country. Political opposition to this foreign domination is called "anti-imperialism."
* (n) empire, imperium (the domain ruled by an emperor or empress; the region over which imperial dominion is exercised)
* (n) empire (a group of countries under a single authority) "the British empire"
* (n) empire (a monarchy with an emperor as head of state)
* (n) conglomerate, empire (a group of diverse companies under common ownership and run as a single organization)
* (n) Empire (an eating apple that somewhat resembles a McIntosh; used as both an eating and a cooking apple)
There has been significant opposition to the Iraq War across the world. At least in the sheer size of protests, this has exceeded the opposition to the Vietnam War in scale, even before military action had begun.
..."Poll results available from Gallup International, as well as local sources for most of Europe, West and East, showed that support for a war carried out "unilaterally by America and its allies" did not rise above 11 percent in any country. Support for a war if mandated by the UN ranged from 13 percent (Spain) to 51 percent (Netherlands)." -Chomsky,[http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/content/2003-10/31chomsky.cfm]
Immediately before and after the 2003 invasion most polls within the United States showed a substantial majority supporting war, though since December 2004 polls have consistently shown that a majority now thinks the invasion was a mistake.
Opinion polls showed that the population of nearly all countries opposed a war without UN mandate, and that the view of the United States as a danger to world peace had significantly increased.
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http://www.glocom.org/special_topics/so ... rends_s28/
On September 13, 2002, US Catholic bishops signed a letter to President Bush stating that any "pre-emptive, unilateral use of military force to overthrow the government of Iraq" could not be justified at the time. They came to this position by evaluating whether an attack against Iraq would satisfy the criteria for a just war as defined by Catholic theology. 
The Vatican also came out against war in Iraq. Archbishop Renato Martino, a former U.N. envoy and current prefect of the Council for Justice and Peace, told reporters that war against Iraq was a "preventative" war and constituted a "war of aggression", and thus did not constitute a just war. The foreign minister, Archbishop Jean-Louis Tauran, expressed concerns that a war in Iraq would inflame anti-Christian feelings in the Islamic world.
"If you look at those matters, you will come to the conclusion that the attitude of the United States of America is a threat to world peace. Because what America is saying is that if you are afraid of a veto in the Security Council, you can go outside and take action and violate the sovereignty of other countries. That is the message they are sending to the world. That must be condemned in the strongest terms." - Nelson Mandela September 10, 2002
Some expressed puzzlement that the U.S. would consider military action against Iraq and not against North Korea, which claimed it already had nuclear weapons and had announced that it was willing to contemplate war with the U.S. This criticism intensified when North Korea conducted a nuclear weapons test on October 9, 2006.
Pacifist critics of the invasion claimed that it would lead to the deaths of thousands of Coalition soldiers and Iraqi soldiers and civilians, and that it would moreover damage peace and stability throughout the Middle East.
Another stated reason for opposition was the Westphalian concept that foreign governments should never possess a right to intervene in another sovereign nation's internal affairs.
Others did accept a limited right for military intervention in foreign countries, but nevertheless opposed the invasion on the basis that it was conducted without United Nations approval and was hence a violation of international law . According to this position, adherence by the U.S. and the other great powers to the UN Charter and to other international treaties to which they are legally bound is not a choice but a legal obligation; exercising military power in violation of the UN Charter undermines the rule of law and is illegal vigilantism on an international scale. Benjamin B. Ferencz, who served as the U.S.'s Chief Prosecutor of Nazi war crimes at the Nuremberg Trials following World War II, has denounced the Iraq War as an aggressive war (named at Nuremberg as "the supreme international crime") and stated his belief that George W. Bush, as the war's initiator, should be tried for war crimes.
There was also criticism of Coalition policy by those who did not believe that military actions would help to fight terror, with some believing that it would actually help Al-Qaeda's recruitment efforts; others believed that the war and immediate post-war period would lead to a greatly increased risk that weapons of mass destruction would fall into the wrong hands (including Al-Qaeda).
Both inside and outside of the U.S., some argued that the Bush Administration's rationale for war was to gain control over Iraqi natural resources (primarily petroleum). These critics felt that the war would not help to reduce the threat of WMD proliferation, and that the real reason for the war was to secure control over the Iraqi oil fields at a time when US links with Saudi Arabia were seen to be at risk. "No blood for oil" was a popular protest cry prior to the invasion in March 2003.
Some opponents of the war also believed that there would be no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and thus there was little reason for an invasion. Prominent among these was Scott Ritter, a former U.S. military intelligence officer and then a United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq, and who in 1998 had been hawkish enough toward Iraq as to be admonished by U.S. Senator Joseph Biden, "The decision of whether or not the country should go to war is slightly above your pay grade."
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